Spies, Lies & Whistleblowers: MI5, MI6 and the Shayler Affair by Annie Machon


Spies, Lies & Whistleblowers: MI5, MI6 and the Shayler Affair by Annie Machon

I desperately wanted to change MI5 so that it performed a useful job well and lawfully, but I did not then feel that I would have been able to do that either from outside the organisation or from a lower level job. In every potential situation, I therefore came up against a dead end. To complain would mark you out as a troublemaker. To leave took you outside any potential ability to alter things. — David Shayler

But I soon realised that people regarded you with suspicion if you asked too many questions, so I learned to keep quiet … I knew that open protest was not likely to to be successful. If one got a reputation as a revolutionary, one would be regarded as suspect and written off. — Dame Stella Rimington, former Director General MI5

I know all too well that I’m taking on the Establishment, but I am no traitor. All I am guilty off is exposing wrongdoing at the highest level. As a result of that my life has been changed irrevocably. This is not the prosecution of someone who has given away State secrets, but of someone who has embarrassed the Government. — David Shayler

You are working for an intelligence agency and you find it to be rotten to the core. What do you do: do you keep your head down and pretend not to notice what is going on all around you, do you raise your concerns with your superiors, or do you go public with what you know?

This was the dilemma facing David Shayler, an intelligence officer in MI5, the British internal intelligence agency. David Shayler took the riskiest option of the three and went public with what he knew, in doing so putting his life and freedom at risk.

MI5 and the government went on the offensive, doing their best to discredit David Shayler and the sordid tale he had to tell. Facing arrest and possible imprisonment, David Shayler fled to France.

In the meantime, Annie Machon, David’s girlfriend and herself an MI5 officer, appalled at the treatment of David, went public too to say that what he was telling was the truth.

And if that was not enough, Richard Tomlinson, an MI6 officer, spoke out at the abuses and lack of accountability at MI6.

David Shayler voluntarily returned from France to face trial. He was one of the first to try to make use of the Human Rights Act, which should guarantee the right to a fair hearing.

Unfortunately it was anything but. What David Shayler faced was a political show trial. He was even gagged and not allowed to speak in his own defence.

Writing several years after they first went public, Annie Machon documents in Spies, Lies & Whistleblowers: MI5, MI6 and the Shayler Affair what all the furore was about.

David and Annie witnessed at first hand:

  • how MI5 failed to foil at least four major IRA terrorist attacks

  • that MI5 compiled dossiers on British citizens for holding dissident political views

  • a blind eye turned to a known Libyan terrorist organising terror networks in the UK

  • illegal persecution of an innocent journalist

  • MI6 funding of an Al-Qaeda coup in Libya to topple and assassinate Colonel Gaddafi

In Spycatcher Peter Wright wrote of how MI5 ‘bugged and burgled its way across London’. Writing a generation later, Annie Machon shows that not a lot has changed: drunken officers who lose sensitive files, turf wars between the various agencies, turf wars between different sections within MI5, bureaucratic bungling, cavalier attitude to human rights, blatant lying to Ministers and an oversight committee, dirty tricks and smear campaigns against perceived enemies, enemies of the intelligence agencies that is, not enemies of the state, etc etc.

There were so many cock-ups in dealing with the Provisional IRA that it is a wonder they were ever defeated. This bodes ill for defeating Islamic terrorism. Irish terrorists were at least ‘decent’ terrorists. They shared the same values as us, they gave a warning when they planted a bomb, they were not intent on killing people, whereas, hate-filled Muslim terrorists are intent on slaughtering the maximum number of innocent civilians.

Prior to working on counter-terrorism, Annie and David were working on counter-subversion, monitoring and infiltrating fringe groups like SWP, Communist Party of Great Britain, and the anarchist group Class War. It is easy therefore to see why the pair were made less than welcome when they attended a fringe meeting at the Anarchist Bookfair 2005. But, they did not have to attend, and it in no way justifies the smear campaign that has been running against them. Annie describes some of the dirty tricks that were run, and the question has to be asked: are the smear campaigns that are being run by allegedly dissident groups, less the lunatic fringe and more dirty tricks by front organisations, or dissident groups that have been infiltrated and hijacked, as was Class War? [Anarchist Bookfair 2005]

Highlighting the abuses of human rights, that monitoring political dissent, is not what the intelligence services should be doing, was not guaranteed to enhance one’s career prospects.

David Shayler was prosecuted because he caused embarrassment, and to serve as an example to others who may be tempted to speak out. Is this what caused Dr David Kelly to take his own life (assuming he did and was not killed to silence him), an honourable man who spoke out against the lies on the illegal war with Iraq?

There is a confusion between ‘damage to national security’ and ‘harm to the national interest’. The former is easy to interpret, the latter is open to abuse, and too often is interpreted as embarrassment to those in power, and believe it or not not, there is a security classification of ‘causing embarrassment to HMG’.

We saw this in the Shayler Affair, and are seeing it again with the infamous memo where George W Bush allegedly wished to bomb the Qatar offices of Aljazeera. That part is believable, less believable is that Tony Blair acted to dissuade Bush.

We have here parallels with the Shayler Affair where a a Civil Servant and a Parliamentary Researcher are to be prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act as their actions are deemed ‘prejudicial to the national interest’. But whose interest is that, as surely is it not in our interest, as a democratic society, to be told that the supposed leader of the free world, was contemplating bombing a TV channel in a friendly country, but was dissuaded by his comrade-in-arms in war crimes, the odious Blair?

The suppression of free speech ‘in the national interest’ is reminiscent of acts carried out ‘in the good of the people’ so favoured by totalitarian regimes, so no surprise it finds favour with Tony Blair.

The mainstream media as usual are a disgrace. They reported as ‘facts’ the anonymous unattributable briefings on the Shayler Affair, but rarely checked with the principle actors the truth of what they were being told.

We have learnt recently that the Muslim terrorists involved in the Tube bombings in London on 7 July 2005, were known to the intelligence services, had travelled to terrorist training camps in Pakistan, had met known or suspected terrorists in the UK, were mixing with extremist Muslim clerics, but failed to keep tabs on them due to lack of resources.

Would this tragedy have happened if the appropriate resources had been found? Would resources have been available if they were not being squandered on monitoring political dissidents? Questions that the relatives of the dead should be asking, and demanding answers.

Since Tony Blair came to power, we have had a succession of Terrorists Acts, each more Draconian than its predecessor. What is this legislation for? Is it for dealing with real terrorists, or is it for dealing with political dissent, for clamping down on the domestic population?

Would we not be more successful in dealing with terrorists if we had more competent security agencies, rather than passed legislation whose only function is to suppress political dissent?

Anti-terror legislation was used for dealing with protests at the G8 Summit in Scotland in Summer 2005. It was invoked again Autumn 2005 to deal with an elderly gentleman who was manhandled out of the Neo-Labour Party Conference by a bunch of thugs for daring to shout out ‘rubbish’ at the government’s policy on Iraq during a speech by Jack ‘boot’ Straw. An elderly gentleman who had fled Nazi persecution in Europe.

When we tie in the abuses that we see all the time, the steady erosion of our civil rights in the name of the bogus ‘war on terror’, with with the abuses that Annie Machon has laid bare within the intelligence services, then we have every reason to be worried.

The off-the-record briefings and smear campaign run against Dr David Kelly were near identical to that run against David Shayler.

In the US, if someone breaks cover and blows the whistle, the administration shrugs and moves on. There may even be an independent inquiry, to which the whistleblower is invited to give evidence, the whistleblower is not prosecuted. ***(that was once upon a time the US took the advice of the UK and changed the law) In the UK, the whistleblower will be smeared in off-the-record briefings, probably prosecuted to serve as an example to others. If they try to give evidence, as David Shayler did to Tony Blair’s Intelligence and Security Committee, they will be ignored, or as we saw with David Kelly after his death, an inquiry will be launched which is nothing more than a cover-up and a whitewash. Having refused to hear evidence from David Shayler, members of the PM’s ISC went on to brief against him.

Lord Hutton, who on behalf of Tony Blair carried out the cover-up and whitewash on Dr David Kelly, was also one of the Law Lord who sat in judgment on David Shayler.

The difference between the US and the UK is that free speech is protected. Although this has started to change post-911 with the Patriot Act. Those who have spoken out regarding the 911 cover-up have been ignored, gagged or threatened, so even in the US the climate is changing for the worse. [see 9-11 Revealed]

Tony Blair is not satisfied with merely shooting the messenger, he also wants to shoot those who carry and repeat the message. In the Shayler Affair threats were issued against anyone who either tried to help or reported on what David Shayler was saying.

A former editor of Punch now has a criminal record for writing on the Shayler Affair, a student at Kingston University lost her course place after being arrested and detained for offering to mobilise public support for David Shayler when he was on the run from the authorities in France.

We are now seeing history repeat itself with threats against the media if they cover the infamous memo containing allegations that George W Bush wished to bomb the offices of Aljazeera in Qatar, a friendly country.

Annie Machon’s description of MI5 is one of incompetence and bureaucratic bungling. MI5 management that lie to Ministers and an oversight committee to cover up their incompetence and bungling. Competent officers leaving, leaving behind the failures who have nowhere else to go. Having once worked in a similar environment, my experience was very similar.

With MI6 it is more sinister. The picture painted of MI6 is that of an agency out of control. When not busy trying to kill people, MI6 is planting stories in its in-house newspaper The Daily Torygraph.

MI6 financed an Al-Qaeda plot to assassinate Colonel Gaddafi. Although the coup and assassination attempt failed, innocent civilian bystanders were nevertheless killed. But let us assume their hair-brained scheme had succeeded. If it had, Al-Qaeda would now be running Libya. Would the world have been a safer place?

One reason David and Annie went public on the MI6/Al-Qaeda plot was that they were one of the few who knew of the plot and feared the fate that later befell Dr David Kelly to silence them.

Violence begets violence. We see that all over the Middle East. We see it in Israeli-occupied Palestine, we see it in the illegally-occupied Iraq.

After the failed assassination and coup attempt, a different approach was tried with Colonel Gaddafi. Softly, softly diplomacy. As a result Colonel Gaddafi has come in from the cold, has given up any WMD programmes (assuming he ever had any), he is cooperating in the war on terrorism, and Libya is slowly, slowly moving towards democracy.

Contrast the Libyan diplomatic approach with the illegal war and occupation of Iraq.

A well written and researched book and Annie Machon should be complimented for having had the courage to write it. A pleasant and realistic change from the breathy, jolly-hockey-sticks account we have of MI5 in Open Secret by Dame Stella Rimington, former Director General MI5, an account where it is jolly good fun to bug and burgle one’s way across London and steam open other people’s post.

I still thought the essence of the Cold War and spies and stuff was fun. You know, going around listening to other people’s telephones and opening their mail and stuff.

We expect the establishment not to forgive Annie and David, and that has been their experience. If they keep their heads down, they are left alone. If they speak out, then they receive undue attention.

What they fear is ending up like Dr David Kelly, the man who exposed the lies behind the illegal war with Iraq. A man who was found dead in a wood with his wrists slashed. And for that reason they are careful to protect some of their sources, as they do not wish to see them end the same way.

In this they are not alone. Gerald James was the boss of Astra, once a firework company and the company that provided the propellant for the Iraqi super-gun. When Gerald James spoke out, he found his life was under threat. [see Gerald James, In the Public Interest, Warner Books, 1996]

All this is understandable. What is less understandable and deeply regrettable, are the attacks on the integrity of these two coming from within the dissident community. The only possible explanation, apart from the usual lunatic fringe, is that those making the attacks are agents of the state doing their best to destroy the credibility of those who have dared speak out at their former employers.

Highly recommended for anyone who wants to see a little light shed into the deeper recesses of of our intelligence agencies and wants to better understand how our civil rights are being eroded.

Annie Machon has written a devastating critique of our intelligence agencies and the need for reform. Grounds if nothing else for a public inquiry into their operation.

We need an intelligence agency that is there to protect democracy, that is accountable, not one which is there to enslave us.

 

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American Deborah Jones strongly denies that the militias Dawn of Libya have destroyed the American embassy building Or tampered with!


American Deborah Jones strongly denies that the militias Dawn of Libya have destroyed the American embassy building Or tampered with!

Editor’s note: Either the woman is on Heroin or on mental medication, there is no other explanation about her statement which I will post it below and then I will show you that she is mentally unstable…..

American Deborah Jones strongly denies that the militias
Dawn of Libya have destroyed the American embassy building
Or tampered with!
America supports the process (the dawn of Libya) and the control of Misurata
The reins of power in Libya, while the European Union
It does not appeal to him as the control of Misurata and behind
Militias of political Islam on the political situation
and military in Libya directly impact on Europe’s security
and political and economic interests in Libya and the conflict now
Between the United States and its allies Qatar and Turkey on the one hand and between Europe
And its allies Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates on the other.
The time factor, however, the United States and its allies on the ground as the
Europe and its allies on the ground, betting on time and steadfastness
Misurata fighting force for the purpose of gain time and to impose
A political process to end the control of the militias and establish resolve
Diplomat result in the government of national unity including all the warring parties for power and influence.

So Deborah Jones who was degraded and sent to Libya (any ambassador who is sent to Libya has been degraded that means in the past they have done something and their punishment is Libya….they didn’t want to sent another CIA Arms dealer like the late Stevens) anyway the woman other from lying through her teeth, believing that the Misurati sorry the “dawn of Libya shits” (pardon my language) that they are only securing the American embassy…… yeah right, so lets take in account a few weeks earlier her dearest friend from Misurata who is a psychopath BADI who started the war against Tripoli and his first achievement was the international airport of Tripoli then went on and burned the gates of the American embassy. Here are the pictures of these morons entering the American embassy.

outside the American embassy

outside the American embassy

American Embassy in Tripoli their pantry!!!! Now you see it 10 minutes later everything vanished

American Embassy in Tripoli their pantry!!!! Now you see it 10 minutes later everything vanished

eating room now you see everything is there later on nothing will be there.... that is how they are protecting the USA embassy

eating room now you see everything is there later on nothing will be there…. that is how they are protecting the USA embassy

Deborah's sitting room everything will disappear to the black market

Deborah’s sitting room everything will disappear to the black market

we are still in the living room & if you see on the previous picture already they are destroying things

we are still in the living room & if you see on the previous picture already they are destroying things

Embassy's  training room, everything will be sold

Embassy’s training room, everything will be sold

Here is were Deborah sleeps I do not think she will find anything when she comes back if she comes back that is.

Here is where Deborah sleeps I do not think she will find anything when she comes back if she comes back that is.

The second video shows the entrance of the annex anyway the woman together with the USA foreign administration recognise these terrorists against the will of the Libyan people and the Honourable tribes, I will attach another link from Africa gate news with this title which it say’s it all… “Libyan activists leading the campaign to expel the American ambassador”

Africagatenews

The group of “dawn of Libya shits” contains Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and USA they are the ones who have organised train and finance them to keep Libya in Chaos they want us to become like Iraq but they are not succeeding because in every turn the Green Resistance, the Honourable Tribes and the Libyan people have united and become one We Are going to Clean this Mess or Die there is no alternative, we will never allow to be colonised or ruled by the corporations and allow them steal everything that all Libyans have worked for in the last 42 years. Here is another way quoted by a colleague of mine:

The Misurata Militia (attempting to repaint themselves with a new name “Libya Dawn”) are the leading criminals in all of Libya now. They are made up of multiple terrorist organizations including Al Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood, Ansar Al Sharia, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group and others. They are also full of mercenaries from many countries in North Africa and the Middle East. They are hated by all Libyans because they are psychopaths. They rape women, they blow up civilian houses, they cut off heads of anyone they don’t like, they steal from citizens on the streets, they rob BANKS, they completely destroyed the Tripoli airport – just because they could. They have no morals, no ethics and no God, they are not Muslims they are terrorists masquerading as Muslims so that they will get support from the radical Islamists who by the way, are not true Muslims either. You have to consider why the Zionists want the West to hate Muslims and why the Mossad, CIA, MI5 train, equip and fund these psychopaths as their personal army to terrorize areas they want to control. Please press the link to read more about the subject.

LATEST UPDATE JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW DEBORAH JONES IS BEHIND THE TERRORISTS AND NOT WITH THE LIBYAN PEOPLE.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation of Libya in a statement issued by the process of the attack on the headquarters of the American embassy in Tripoli, the ministry said in a statement: condemns the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation strongly assault on the headquarters of the American embassy in Tripoli by the elements and groups outside the law, and the ministry is that this action hurts the reputation of Libya and the supreme national interest, and totally incompatible with the principles of law and international conventions, Affirming the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, that the perpetrators of this attack and others will be prosecuted, they warns that any attack on the headquarters of the diplomatic missions accredited to Libya is considered a criminal act contrary to the Geneva Convention, which stipulates the need to protect and provide security for diplomatic missions, also confirms the ministry’s keenness of the government and the Libyan people on the relations of friendship and cooperation which serves the interests of both countries.

http://libyaagainstsuperpowermedia.org/2014/07/19/ex-lieutenant-salah-badi-from-misurata-goes-on-bloodthirsty-rampage-in-tripoli/

The Covert Origins of ISIS…and the long time planned plot against humanity


alfatah69:

The fact that the CIA was actively working to help the Libyan rebels topple Gaddafi was no secret, nor were the airstrikes that Obama ordered against the Libyan government. However, little was said about the identity or the ideological leanings of these Libyan rebels. Not surprising, considering the fact that the leader of the Libyan rebels later admitted that his fighters included Al-Qaeda linked jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq.

Originally posted on the real SyrianFreePress Network:

ISIS-USAS

The Covert Origins of ISIS

A NEW SCGNEWS REPORT

Evidence exposing who put ISIS in power,
and how it was done.

The Islamic militant group ISIS, formerly known as Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and recently rebranded as the so called Islamic State, is the stuff of nightmares. They are ruthless, fanatical, killers, on a mission, and that mission is to wipe out anyone and everyone, from any religion or belief system and to impose Shari’ah law. The mass executions, beheadings and even crucifixions that they are committing as they work towards this goal are flaunted like badges of pride, video taped and uploaded for the whole world to see. This is the new face of evil.

Would it interest you to know who helped these psychopaths rise to power? Would it interest you to know who armed them, funded them and trained them? Would it interest you to know why?

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Doctors: Rasmussen clinically dead


Doctors: Rasmussen clinically dead

I can not say I am sorry for him, God is paying him back for all the destruction he and his lackeys did in Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and anywhere NATO PUT its foot in it. He was/is arrogant and he never felt sorry for the people who where killed especially the children. I hope he and his family suffer the same way we have suffered with the loss of a loved one. I apologize that I have no remorse for this man as he should be put on trial by the ICC as a war criminal. 

Rasmussen in St. Petersburg from kremlin.ru  CC BY 3.0

Rasmussen in St. Petersburg from kremlin.ru CC BY 3.0

Drama Fogh around the long-standing NATO Secretary General Anders Rasmussen. Suspected of having a stroke, he was admitted to a hospital in Brussels yesterday. Unfortunately, the worst fears have been confirmed. Rasmussen lying in the ICU and had fallen into a coma. Although he could still talk, but only talk gibberish, which can be excluded, according to the doctors remaining brain activities mostly. However, the doctors are puzzled.

“The stroke has occurred not only yesterday.” Said chief physician Dr. Ruger Holgenbauer, “That must be a long time ago! After an untreated stroke it often takes a few days for the function of the brain exposed.Nevertheless, Rasmussen is still occurred for years at conferences. He has given speeches there, although he was already brain dead and no one noticed anything! “

According to the narrowest circles around him Rasmussen had never shown any abnormalities. His secretary said he was “as always”. The stroke was discovered purely by chance then, as Rasmussen in a pedestrian zone approached a homeless man. “I thought he was a junkie,” says Vincent Bossut, “which is a bit too much Chrystal Meth has nibbled because he with me” shit Putin appealed “. His face was so disfigured, as we know it by Chrystal Meth consumer forth. Since I can call an ambulance for safety’s sake. “

In the hospital the doctors have recognized the random signs of the stroke.

Rasmussen was particularly noticed, as he is a  conspiracy between Greenpeace and Russia against Fracking suspected. Even then, rumors about a possible already came Drugs Rasmussen on. How now turned out to be anything different.

For the doctors, now begs the question, how long Rasmussen has to stay connected to the spoke oppressive systems that tell him permanently deter nonsense.His wife enjoys under its own account on any of their patients available man. Currently is checked whether any one of his friends has one. The search should not take long. Besides Barack Obama, Angela Merkel and a few Polish government officials, Rasmussen took a long time no more seriously.

 

Video: American ambassador we have issued a statement of support for the House of Representatives and we recognise the legitimacy of the elections


Video: American ambassador we have issued a statement of support for the House of Representatives and we recognise the legitimacy of the elections

Editors note: The woman not only she is arrogant but she doesn’t have a clue what is going on in Libya. The American foreign policy may recognise what ever they want but the fact is that the LIBYAN people do not recognise the House of Representatives. So for her to speak on the behalf of the extremist which her government recognise is absurd. She avoids calling Libya a failed state, if not a failed state then what is it? She has the audacity to talk about Qaddafi and saying after a dictatorship of 42 years its difficult to educate people to the WESTERN DICTATORSHIP oops sorry Democracy…. she avoids systematically to talk with the Honourable Tribes but talks with the Extremist War lords of Misurata and hold hands with them. Showing to us that AMERICA WANTS TO CREATE A CALIPHATE IN LIBYA. I will comment on each point of her interview.

Here is the interview:

Welcome Ambassador in this interview, let’s start with the latter to meet you, Mr. Prime Minister Abdullah Thani, which in turn met with leaders of AFRICOM, is this somehow reflects the support of the Government of the crease?

1 Ambassador Jones: Let me say that when he was Prime Minister Abdullah Thani here to participate in the African summit we held a series of meetings, not only with Africom and General Rodriguez, but also included national security adviser Susan Rice. It was at the crease because the opportunity is talking with the president at the dinner, and also met with Foreign Minister Kerry in this building. All of these discussions revolved around one axis, which is how the United States should support Libya? And help in building its institutions, especially the stability, security and support the government in order to secure its borders and to spread prosperity and support all the demands for which the Revolution, what revolution you mean the illegal war which you installed a puppet government? From what I know none of them gave any attention to Abduallah Thani he was just a puppet sitting in this summit doing sweet nothing.

2 President Obama himself spoke in an interview with the New York Times that the biggest failures in foreign policy is a failure to provide adequate support to build civil institutions, what can be done now?

Ambassador Jones: What he was referring to the president is the period that followed the overthrow of Gaddafi, and perhaps he should have done more, or if we can do more to help the Libyans to build the institutions of the state that they need. At that time I think there was tarry and slow to understand the reality and allow the transitional Governing Council  to play a leading role. Perhaps because the Libyans lack of experience – we understand this, as well as our allies in the West and even the Libyans themselves – they understand the complexities of the challenges and the nature of the stage and the sharp division who was born after the revolution. All of this was the need to address. Well come to the conviction that there are gaps deep and sharply divided over the future of Libya, and these divisions need to resolve through dialogue and negotiation. You don’t say? When you entered illegally by bombing us and assisting the extremists what did you think that you would walk in Libya install a government and everything would be ok? When you decided to enter illegally did you have a plan? No. Did you ever think in contacting the Honourable Tribes? No. The only thing you believed are the 200 thousand people in exile that Libya was ready for change but your affiliates didn’t check the facts, they did not visit the country to see what your lackeys are telling you is false, nonetheless you invade the country with your trained extremists who are not Libyans and you have this mess which you are unable to clean… so butt out. 

3 What can be submitted now of practical steps? Nothing

Ambassador Jones: Well, for civil society We have supported a number of programs aimed at training the Libyans and having them involved in the political process, but we understand that after forty-two or forty-three years of authoritarian rule, it is natural that the missing people for this kind of experience that we and others have, which are part of the political process in the United States. Let me say – as always remind the Libyan people – that democracy is not the end, it is not a paradise of Eden, it is a difficult passage corridor. In addition to all of these programs, of course, we assessed the security situation. It makes sense that the first thing we need is to build a fence around the garden so you can grow if we missed the fence it is easy for outsiders to enter the park and taking what they would like to, for this we need to build security services. I have spent a long time talking with the Prime Minister on this issue specifically. We talked together, how do we pay for these programs before, and build capabilities and capacities in Libya in order to stabilise the security? This process requires government action in addition to the role of civil society in a secure environment, and as you know there is a lot more that needs to be done in this regard. Out of the above they did nothing and no programs were available they were put on hold for 2015. Being arrogant is one thing, lying with a straight face shows that she and her country has no respect for the Libyan people.

4 Is Libya become a failed state? Yes

Ambassador Jones: I try to avoid using the term “failed state”, say it is a state in the process of growth, we issued a statement of support National Congress, which we now call the House of Representatives Sorry lady you must be living in another planet maybe Mars but not in this earth and not in this country called Libya. This support includes support for the committee writing the draft constitution, which is still working to accomplish, and we also know we have recognised the legitimacy (what legitimacy only 2% of the Libyans went to vote? again I beg the question are you taking drugs or are you living in another universe than ours?) of the elections and the need to support the Libyans to state institutions and participation in the political process. You can not win that did not participate in the elections. The profession of politics is difficult and harsh. For along with the military, without a doubt, this government was the first to recognise the difficulties facing the country, and they do not deny that a lot of the arrangements that have been taken in the wake of the revolution(really what revolution? the American revolution? because in Libya we did not see a revolution we saw an ILLEGAL TAKE OVER BY THE WEST) was temporary arrangements, such as allowing the proliferation of militias to provide security in those circumstances, but these arrangements have neglected the complexities arming rival militias and competing in the long run, which was fighting for the interests of the insurance, whether goods or commercial or ways to get to the airport, which was generating money for them, and this was the biggest challenge. Now we have to deprive (are you for real? deprive!??? the militias from their weapons? are you worried that the militias will ask for their money back while you will deprive them from their weapons? as your country is already bankrupt?) militias of their weapons, I do not mean necessarily stripped entirely of the weapon, as you know, the subject of carrying weapons in the United States is the subject of a polemic because of the constitutional rights that allow citizens to carry guns, has faced we have also problems with the militia at the birth of our nation, but is not entitled militias in Libya carrying Kalashnikovs, say that it must neutralize the militias and unify the weapons so you can play a positive role rather than playing the role of a messy or absurd, between militias led to harm to a lot of Libyans. But clearly there must be an immediate cease-fire so that we can address the political problems that are caused by the existence of the phenomenon of armed militias. You don’t say! You want to deprive them from their weapons but not all of it… so that you can use them again incase the puppet government does not do what you want…. really you think that all Libyans are so stupid….

5 Is Libya on the brink of civil war?

Ambassador Jones: I can not predict the unseen, because the events impose themselves, and if there is no framework to work through the strategy, it is easy to see how the events that are racing, and this leads to fragmentation and division in the absence of a strong central government. I say that the most important duties of the government, any government, in any place, whether in the United States or France or Egypt, to be able to create equal opportunities for citizens to share resources and revenue, and in the absence of these frameworks, the citizens would fight among themselves in the absence of power. Hence the appeal to the Libyan people, especially militias who are fighting now, to bow to the wishes and aspirations of the Libyan people, who clearly identified demands. They want a democratic process, want peace and do not aspire to control the militias on the state apparatus. Vital installations in need of protection by the central government, and should not be subject to the control of the militias, but the way to achieve this goal is not firing missiles at ports vital. And on the idea of ​​targeting vital installations such as airports exposed to the risk of prosecution on charges of breach of international law, which prohibits the targeting of civil aviation lines, on Libyans to respect international law. Dear Lady under your orders the Misurati militias do what they do, they maybe take it a little far but that is you’re doing when you have an office in Misurata they ask for your permission together with the warlord tribe leader of Misurata. You and Misurata hate so much Tripoli that you will do anything to bring it to the ground just because we have defied you and take orders from our Honourable tribes WHO ARE UNITED AND THEY DON’T WANT YOU IN OUR COUNTRY. WHY DON’T YOU INFORM THE PUBLIC THAT THE HONOURABLE TRIBES DENIED YOU TO VISIT THEM? So to punish us you went along with Misurata, Al Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and Ansar Sharia…. WE THE LIBYAN PEOPLE WILL DIE FIRST THAN ALLOW ANY AGGRESSOR GOVERN OUR COUNTRY, WE WILL NEVER ALLOW YOU TO MAKE LIBYA ANOTHER IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, SOMALIA OR A CALIPHATE OF EXTREMISTS SO THAT YOU CAN FORCE EUROPE TO GO TO WAR.

6 Ambassador Jones: If I could answer I’d be the next prime minister of Libya, but we talked with Ali Zeidan and others in the past, and we discussed the different ways of how to deal with this problem, and how to persuade the militias with this solution. As you know we have our own experience in this field. For example, we have the National Guard in the United States, and the Swiss National Guard there, where every soldier has a rifle in his home. Lady if we had a national Guard and every soldier had a rifle in his home its asking for trouble…. Just shows that you and your government have no clue about our country. My suggestion is that you pack up your bags and go home and let us Libyans CLEAN THE MESS YOU LEFT BEHIND.

Nadia Balbisi: But the Arab world is not Switzerland

Ambassador Jones: Yes, but people are people, and we must find ways to rehabilitate the militias and the creation of job opportunities for them and functions, and to make them responsible citizens under the sovereignty of the state, and this will not be by force. We are working with the Libyans and our partners in Britain, Italy and the Turks and the French also to build security institutions and the establishment of the army and the police are able to adjust the security of the state so that it can extend its sovereignty. The concept of sovereignty is that the state monopoly on military force. In modern times there are many models for this, but in a tribal society like Libya, there must be a compromise solution on the militias through agreement ensures delivered or placed under government control. Without doubt, the border should be monitored, as you know, to Libya a long border and there is no mechanism to monitor the whole, but allow this border entry of weapons like goods, and these are the challenges we face, we and our European partners, as we work to create a mechanism to control the border, and this will difficult and extraordinary challenge. NOW YOU ARE LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH…. NOTHING OF THE ABOVE HAS EVER HAPPENED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS…. AND I DO NOT THINK ITS GOING TO BEGIN NOW…. WE USED TO HAVE A SOVEREIGN NATION TILL YOU DECIDED TO DESTROY IT. WHAT DO YOUR PARTNERS KNOW ABOUT LIBYA NOTHING…. YOU CAN NOT REHABILITATE THE MILITIAS ONCE THEY HAVE SEEN THE POWER THEY HAVE IN THEIR HANDS… STEALING, RAPPING, KIDNAPPING AND KILLING…. ARE YOU KIDDING? THEY WILL NEVER GIVE UP WHEN THEY CAN COLLECT MILLIONS OF $ FOR ALL THE ABOVE… 

7 Problem facing Libya is the smuggling of weapons across the border and access to armed jihadist groups in the Sinai, Mali, What help do you offer to those countries, especially Egypt

Ambassador Jones: Without a doubt our ancient relationship with Egypt dating back to decades-long. In fact, are more than decades, dating back to era of the American Civil War, where the army set up the first American military institute in Cairo, and I think that many people are unaware of this information. We have common interests, of course, the concerned collectively we share it with neighbors Libya about the risk of penetrating the border, where allowing terrorist movements to build bases and use Libya as a base for operations threatens through which the rest of the region, and we are working with the Europeans as well as to prevent breakthroughs across the border. Without a doubt, we believe the importance of maintaining a successful transition in Tunisia, for example, and believe in the need to maintain the security of Egypt, and all countries in the region, so we are discussing these matters with the Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs, when attending the African Summit. Assistant Secretary of State Anne Patterson held a meeting devoted to the neighbors of Libya, where they discussed this matter, and concern about the border issue. In fact, Foreign Minister Mohammed Abdulaziz provide ideas about security cooperation. Egypt, which play a political role also provided ideas and dubbed Operation Tunisia, where he was the first meeting there a few months ago. Without a doubt there is great concern about the situation in Libya, so we may see a multiplicity of paths and ideas, and even envoys in order to secure a cease-fire the first place, and this is a preliminary step, because we will not be able to negotiate or support institutions that Libya needs to support her as long as the security situation unstable. Personally, I will be traveling there. As you know we had to evacuate our embassy because of its geographical location near the areas of fighting. The headquarters of the interim will be in Malta, and from there I will go to Libya to numerous visits so that we can return permanently to the embassy in Tripoli, and in spite of this are still in constant contact, and I’m talking on a daily basis with the Libyan government and political leaders Libyans and members of civic organizations and ordinary citizens. I have  22 thousand people who follow me on Twitter and you can follow me under the name of Ambassador Debra. Yes right the 22 thousand people who are following you are dual citizens who told you and your government to invade Libya. As for the foreign minister of Libya he is a Muslim Brotherhood which is not accepted by the Libyan people so is the Prime Minister which his house in Tripoli was burned 2 days ago and he had to be displaced like everybody else…. You say you talk every day with the government which one? The one in Tobruk or the one that has been dismantled in Tripoli? or are you talking with the Misurata militia and you think they are they government now? Which political leaders? Do you mean the terrorist Abulhakim Belhaj? or the Muslim Brotherhood, Ansar Sharia, Al Qaeda or Daash? You will go back to Tripoli to what? your embassy has been burnt down by the Mesurati militia warlords that you believe are your friends. LADY YOU CAN NEVER BE FRIENDS WITH A LIBYAN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW BY NOW, WE SHOWED OUR APPRECIATION TOWARDS YOUR GOVERNMENT SINCE OUR FIRST INDEPENDENCE, THEN WITH KING IDRIS THAT HE PLANNED A REVOLUTION TO GET RID OF YOU BUT YOU CAUGHT IT IN TIME AND YOU INSTALLED QADDAFI WHICH IN RETURN HE KICKED YOUR ASSES OUT OF LIBYA WELL MOST OF IT YOU HAD ONLY ONE SMALL BASE IN CONNECTION WITH THE CIA. YOU STILL DIDNT GET YOUR LESSON SO YOU TRIED TO TOPPLE QADDAFI AND INSTALL AGAIN SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE… AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN FACING THE SAME PROBLEM. NOW YOU & YOUR GOVERNMENT TOGETHER WITH EUROPE THINK THAT YOU CAN TAME US….. WELL I AM SORRY TO INFORM YOU, THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN! WE ARE NOT THE IRAQI’S, AFGHANIS, SOMALIANS OR SUDANESE… OUR RACE AND TRIBES ARE A DIFFERENT KIND, WE HAVE BEEN HERE IN LIBYA LONGER THAN YOU HAVE BEEN AN EMPIRE…. WE HAVE OUTLIVED ALL EMPIRES WHO TRIED TO DESTROY US AND WE ARE STILL STANDING ALTHOUGH WE ARE A HANDFULL OF PEOPLE WE ARE ONE OF KIND…. AND  VERY STUBBORN PEOPLE WHO DON’T GIVE A RATS ASS WHAT YOU THINK OF US. WE WILL DIE FIRST THAN ALLOW YOU TO COLONIZE US.

8 Is there a specific offer of military aid to Egypt or Tunisia?

Ambassador Jones: For military aid, as you know, we have signed a letter with the Prime Minister from which to train Libyan army and we do the training currently outside of Libya, and we have many other programs similar in order to enhance their abilities, and in order to meet the challenges of a special nature, such as the training of special units , and we have this program outside of Libya. I hope when the time comes and the security situation improves training process that we are inside Libya. For the border, which is more challenging and the reality of the European Union is leading in this area. Long border. United States also has experience of this, and are not necessarily successful. We understand the length of the border, as you know, we are fortunate for our border with Canada because the climate is cool, I’m joking, but if we went back to the subject of the Libyan border, there must be a clear strategy and cooperation between the Office of the Prime Minister and the ministers themselves and the House of Representatives, which reflects the wishes of the people. Absent such a strategy as long as we can not move forward, so we fully believe that it is necessary to move away from the fighting and focus on the game of politics and the democratic process and respect for the law, and more importantly, this is the path. Yes an agreement was signed with Zeidan who has resigned, yes the training took place in Bulgaria, but nothing came out of it. In case she has forgotten in America since Bush there are no borders between Canada and Mexico although they try to keep it under wraps. So she has no idea of our borders…… Even the Jamahiryia government had a problem with the borders…. so I am waiting to see how she is going to handle it….

9 Some people believe there is a similarity between the organization Daash in Iraq and Ansar al-Sharia in Libya, where the, United States considers them as terrorist organizations, will the United States be directed to air strikes in Libya as it did in Iraq?

Ambassador Jones: the risk that the mix of all these cases together. I want to say that what that in Iraq the Daash from killings and slaughter and terrorize civilians and minorities such as the Yezidis make defining the framework of our military mission in Iraq is clear, because of the danger posed by the organization on our representatives in the consulates and programs that support the Iraqis. I think that the announcement Daash stay succession requires attention internationally and regionally, and requires ordinary citizens to stand Bugehm, and the choice of frameworks governmental legal action through which a be based on respect for freedom of expression and political pluralism and security under the auspices of international law, or loyalty to the separatist movement is responsible says my loyalty is to the law only. I want to say that Ansar al-Sharia is different from Daash Without a doubt, we are categorized as a terrorist organization and there are those who disagree with us are in this category. I hate to repeat myself but! has she seen what the Ansar al Sharia has done lately and for that matter in the last 3 years? I know she & her government like them (it was the same group who protected the late Ambassador Stevens, just saying!) but that doesn’t mean that they are not similar to Daash which by the way we have them in Libya and are controlled by Abdulhakim Belhaj in case she has forgotten.

10. There are reports of the disappearance of planes from Libya and the possibility of their use by al-Qaeda in Morocco style attacks of September atheist in the neighbouring countries, what is the validity of these reports?

Ambassador Jones: I have not seen this report are you talking about, but the rockets fired on the eighteenth of August despite the fact that the Libyan army espoused We realize that the Libyan National Army does not possess such capabilities and are incorrect statements. I do not think that the rockets fired by the Libyans and the Libyan army, they lack the capabilities. We look closely at this matter seriously, because this kind of escalation will face escalating from the other side, and as we saw during the hours of the other side fired air-to-air on board the carts on residential areas, in fact, had not seen devastation like this even in the days of the revolution, did not suffer from before from casualties or damage, and there were dead perhaps five or six. Violence is not the solution. Sometimes I do not exclude the government’s need to respond to the military, but in this case, violence is not the solution. She must be taking something most probably her doctor prescribed her some uppers otherwise its incoherent in what she is talking about… they were not only 5 or 6 dead…. they were a lot more dead civilians and she does not want to confirm the fact that the MILITIAS WHO HAVE JOINED MISURATA HAVE MASSACRED A LOT OF CIVILIANS.

11 You had to vacate the embassy and go by road to the border to reach Tunisia, Tell us about the journey and whether you were afraid from any attack to the convoy subjected from the militia? Stupid question! they had the HAWKS from air there was no way anyone would dare attack them….

Ambassador Jones: Let me say that the closure of the embassy and evacuate staff, including the self hurts. We raised the flag just a month before the eviction process and we were on the verge of opening the consulate for the issuance of visas, but the security situation did not allow us. As you know, my responsibility first and last is to protect employees and the Americans working in Libya, has been contacted by many Americans who have not been able to go to the embassy because of the seriousness of the security situation around, so you must think of some other way to evacuate them. It was a process of traveling across the mainland interesting, and avoided the coastal roads. Tunisia has provided us with massive aid through the National Guard, and also there was an American fighter planes flown accompany us to make sure that were  not exposed to any attack. In fact, some Libyans told me that the presence of accompanying aircraft is the solution I figured I laugh that we can not put the F 16-24 hours a day, there is an international law entails under the Vienna Convention, which allows us to protect our diplomatic missions, and this is what we have done. We hope for a quick return of Libya. Something that Ms Deboorah (that’s how the Tribe leaders call her),does not realise is we don’t care about any Convention or International law. Her country proved to us that there is no law or international law when it concerned the invasion of Libya in 2011, so why the heck should we care now….? At the time when we needed the Geneva convention, the international law for attacking a sovereign country they didn’t stand in our side on the contrary they stood by the illegal war and nobody talks about the Genocide that was done to the black Libyans. No Convention or international has condemned the war done to us in 2011. So why Libyans should care about the International laws and Conventions or whatever they want to call it….

12: Finally: When are you going back to Libya to resume your work?

I can not predict the full return of the embassy staff. For security reasons I can not quite set the date, but I can say that I will return to Libya, the onset of the next month, or perhaps sooner, and this promise. Don’t make promises you can not keep lady, it’s not that easy as you think.. you may have your F16 and your Hawks but we don’t care we can handle you one way or the other.